Why only individual thinking can reunite America | Tim Snyder


Well, the whole idea of best interests in
the question, “Why do people vote against their best interests?” is not an objective
thing in nature. It’s one of the very problems in the politics
of inevitability, is that we think like economists and we say, “Well, everybody is rational
in the narrow economical sense, everybody knows what’s good for them.” And that’s just not true, or rather the
ability of people to discern what their interests are depends upon a process of education, which
includes not just reasoning mathematically, which is very important, but also it has to
include some kind of humanistic side where people learn to criticize or think critically
about what they hear, learn to make distinctions among various kinds of media. Because that notion of “one’s best interest”
is not at all natural, it’s the product of a certain kind of education. And that kind of education can be undone,
first of all it can not be done, but it can also be undone, one can deliberately appeal
to the parts of the mind which aren’t concerned with the future, with math, with critical
thinking, but to the parts of the mind which think in terms of “us and them,” “friend
and enemy,” and you can draw people into these cycles. And the less—and this is how it fits together
with inequality—the less people see a good future for themselves if they think in terms
of interests, the more they’re drawn into a different way of thinking where it’s not
about their individual interests, but it’s more about feeling like they’re on the “right
team,” they’re on the “right side.” For a lot of people in the U.S. now I think
it’s a little bit like they want to ride the bench for the winning team. They know that things aren’t going well
for them personally, but they want to feel like they’re on the right side. And that helps to explain the appeal of someone
like a Donald Trump who, of course, himself is a failure but has the skills to present
himself as a success and can get people thinking, “Yeah, I want to be on that team. I’m not going to do any better economically,
but I’m going to feel better about myself, because I’m on the winning team, I’m on
what it feels like the winning team.” So the whole thing about best interests has
to be seen as a project. You have to educate people, you have to take
anxiety away by providing certain basic things like schooling and pensions and vacations
so people can pause and think a little bit about themselves and their future. If you don’t provide those basic elements
of (I would say) political civilization then people are too anxious, it’s hard for them
to get their minds around what their interest actually are. And beyond that if you don’t educate them
positively towards thinking with both math and with the humanities they’re not going
to get there anyway. So it’s a project. A basic thing that we Americans forget—and
a basic thing that politics of inevitability shrouds—is that creating the individual
is a project. It takes a lot of work to create an individual. I mean we want to have thinking individuals. We want to have people who know what their
best interests are. We want to have people who go thoughtfully
into that ballot box, but that’s a project; we’re not born that way. I mean as a father I can assure you that we
are not born that way. I think it’s the noblest and best thing
we do, to try to create individuals, but we can’t just leave it to chance, and I think
that’s where we go wrong. One of the basic ways we go wrong with the
politics of inevitability, we think, “Okay, automatically we’re going to be those kinds
of rational people,” but we’re not automatically those kinds of rational people. I mean the irony is if you want to create
individuals who can think about their own best interests you have to, as a society,
say, “We agree to make it a project to educate and form such individuals.”

100 comments

  1. This channel can't seem to keep politics out of it's videos. I'm not dismissing your content because of that, I'm just letting you know that it's quite annoying. It's especially so when you're making a video about thinking for yourself.

  2. Get a grip ,tidy your room and make your own life. Socialists tried to create good individuals to a recipe and then threw them in jail if they got it wrong or just let them die ….100 million of them. Beware the state telling people what is good for them.

  3. Abstraction. Morality, ethics, human law, religion…abstraction. No one cares about that. At all, Dr. Snyder. We live in a social/economic Darwinian universe in which it's me or them. In the words of Dr. Pinker, the abstraction known as "society" goes out the window when ones own survival is dependent on individual action.

  4. 1. It takes a combination of both individual and collective thinking, it will never be one or the other. 2. Most people are unable to think for themselves, so not only would this result in many different, irrational forms of thinking all over the place, but it probably won't be even possible to begin with. Don't like it? Don't let big think write your titles for you.

  5. The "failure" is a billionaire, president of the US against all odds, getting 4% economical growth… I wish I was a "failure" like that.

    See, the problem with this kind of pseudo-intellectual is that they confuse individual and critical thinking with left-leaning thinking. They believe that that's the only way to look at life correctly, and everyone who looks at it another way is just plain wrong.

    What this guy wants is not free, critical thinking. He only wants "revolutionary thought", in the same vain as people such as Paulo Freire and Gramsci. It's fake free thinking that inevitably leads to authoritarianism and dictatorships.

  6. The idea that anyone votes against their own interests is a myth told by both sides to discredit the opposition. It’s just a campaign trick.

  7. Donald Trump is a failure? lol – ok, sure he's a crappy person – but your idea of a failure and mine must be totally different concepts (born into a well to due family, multimillionaire early in life, property tycoon, billionaire, author, multibillionaire, "president of the US" – and really, most of his temporary fails simply made him stronger) – don't confuse a lousy person with failure – most people shift behind him because they like the administrations "polices" (the direction), not because of who's president / and anyone you 'give' programs too, won't simply 'pause' and think, they kick back and provide nothing productive to society – you 'earn' through fortitude and a competitive desire to accomplish goals, and this is what makes "individuals" strong and allow them the resources to enhance society within each ecosystem, in turn providing a stronger 'national' presence / you underestimate 'people' Tim, they'll do fine in getting their mind around productivity if you simply leave them to it … yes, people are 'born' with the abilities to succeed, and the real irony is you simply want to indoctconise people not teach them – these days university level humanities are a cancer to society and champion to 'deconstruct' through any means posable

  8. Individual thinking is critical but his way of explaining it's importance is wrong .

    He is simply saying the other folks are wrong even though Hillery as well promoted collective identity by saying if you are not voting for me you are sexist or deplorable.

    I hate it when intelligent people are using their education to bash the other political side . If the democrats continue with that tactic , trump is going to win 2020 which I hope won't happen .

  9. These comments proves that the sheeple of the conservative fascist party will complain that the Liberals will kill us all when the exact opposite was true.

  10. Are you certain a free thinker can survive in any dominant political system? If so then THERE WOULD BE A LOT but there aren't a lot so what is the issue?

  11. By what definition is Trump a failure?

    Successful businessmen where 9 out of 10 fail- he succeeded.
    Ran for president. Won.
    Promised to improve economy by at least 3%. We're well over 4 now.
    Promised to cut taxes, renegotiate trade agreements, finally move embassy to Jerusalem…

    So again, by what definition is he a failure? He fails to play identity politics. That's a game I'd be happy to fail every time.

  12. Trumputin followers wont be able to understand the first 30 seconds of this speech
    … What to speak of the rest

    🔶

    You can unite only when you speak same language

    🔶

  13. When you called Donald Trump a failure, you exposed yourself as a fraud.
    If Trump is a loser, what is Hillary Clinton?

  14. "Trump is a failure… but has the skills to present himself as a success…"???? Failure is defined as "lack of success". If Trump lacks success what else does he need to do. He is a billionaire and a president of the country with the worlds biggest economy and army, how much more successful can you be.
    It's also BS that "people voted for Trump to be on the winning team". People didn't vote for Trump to be on the "winning team" the absolute opposite happened. People voted for Trump because they benefited from it. Trump cut taxes people got more money. Some people benefit, some people don't.

  15. It seems most of the critical comments miss the point that we are not born enabled and equipped to discover our own self interest, but need to develop this skill. They show in their knee jerk response their insecurities when they see an attack here. It's not. The point applies to everyone. Learn how. Study. Then take a position.

  16. I don’t think most Trumpers just wanted to be on a winning team, Trump managed to be the best liar in a situation already full of liars. He pretended to care about the average person better than Hillary did.

  17. Thank you Mr. Snyder. A well made observation ! I would like to point out that our public school system creates this ignorance by NOT educating the majority in their own self-interests !

  18. Many people always subscribed to group identities, but they only talked about it on the down low. It was festering even before Intersectionality. Although now, even the few people that were more individualistic are getting sucked up into group identity too. It's only now that it's in the open that we can truly discuss true individual thinking and personal accomplishments.

    That being said, humans need some sort of identity to understand where they came from and where they are going. The void of identity needs to be filled one way or another, and empowering every individual is necessary. High wealth discrepancy bestows a type of individual powerlessness.A supreme court justice said that money is a feature of the political system, not a bug. It's expected for poor people to pool their money together to affect politics. Thus the system itself disempowers many at the bottom of the hierarchy from pursuing individual thinking. It's no wonder some reject the system altogether to seek individual thinking.

  19. mmm, psychology creates processes that do not exist to the brain they are studying, so to the sports team that have tactical moves and the spectator that watches the game, it is like the cat is alive and also dead, because the box has not been opened. perhaps similar choices of class entrenchment is passively anti-logic, you go to the game, support the team, but there is cheap drinks, you get out of the house, and their is food. Evolutionary cognition sounds like a cliche, yet for some behavior to evolve (maybe in a moral sense over a medium sense; barbecue)some thought process do de-evolve (meditation and television), In a sense we are all passive consumers of reality, and in the circle of logic, stimulus has a hierarchy of attraction just as the individual has reflective intent. Reflection of the external, refraction of accepted external interaction.

  20. Let me just say "the winning… team" a dozen times. And make sure I pause before saying "team" because it's a big word and those Trump supporters might not know it. Also they might be busy having a religious experience because they just heard the word "winning".

  21. I just know there are going to be triggered Trump supporters in the comments from one throw away statement in the video.

  22. The current theocratic power base wants their base less critical, this is why they support anti science, this is why they attack education and sell superstitious beliefs. It comes down to controlling and manipulating the masses for power and money.

  23. I hope your including interdividuals, I defend the individual, but not in the name of exploitative Capitalism… Leftist Individuals are often naïve…

  24. 😆😄🤣😅 "Like Donald Trump – he is a failure, but has the skills to present himself as a success…" ROTFLMAO! 🤪 Yeah, he is only a self made billionaire and President of the United States… what a failure. 🤯 Talk about narcissistic delusions… Wow…just Wow! 😳

  25. Let me sum this up: the only way to reunite the country is for people to stop being a bunch of tribalistic, superstitious, racist, mindless, greedy, assholes . . . mhm, good luck with that =] Of course there is another way . . . just wait for those people to die.

  26. I think we also need much better self awareness. I find it so ironic how common the mindset of "THEY think in terms of ingroup-outgroup" is.

    I'm a hypocrite, I do it too. I think the first step to progress is admitting that.

  27. How the heck did you reach to the conclusion that "DT is of course a failure"? He is less of a failure than the Democratic Party and that's the fact! PARTISAN BIAS BS!!! Not surprising though given your sugar daddy financiers 🙂

  28. I haven't changed, I find myself half on the left and half on the libertarian side of the political system. So I don't find myself on any team since both teams misrepresent their original intent. What I do find is people focusing too much on social issues since economic issues are stratified in the current economic political structure. And I find both sides being stratified by those social issues to the point that they can't think beyond them. An example would be immigration. The left has no policy at all on immigration and the right wants to shut down immigration (at least illegal). Since many on the right have a racists bent on immigration the lefts knee jerk reaction is everyone who takes exception to immigration must be racist. So immigration itself becomes racist so in order not to be racist we can't have an immigration policy. That is a very non-thinking reactionary stance that quite frankly embarrasses me. The flip side with the right is gun control. If the left brings up control the right's knee jerk reaction is NO! without even listening to the argument or the actual control policy would be. Again non-thinking reactionary stance.

  29. People in the comments triggered that their God-Emperor was called a failure. I wonder who the snowflakes are?

  30. I've been reading the comments and i notice something quite interesting. It seems like people in this day and age measure success by how much money they or others can get. They guy in the video says Trump is a failure and the first reason some people come up with to justify Trump is that, how could he be a failure when he has so much money?

  31. There are visionary people whose progressive thoughts and dreams that are beautiful and positive or even more of the like and kind of these people are so important just because of their ability to vision these things it really matters. Without these people, we would have a much different looking world and society. However, what happens afterwards could and does become problematic, which could take up a lot of paper writing those thoughts down. Individual thinking is what it’s all about, I’m on your side Tim team Big Think I think.

  32. imo
    Any damn thinking would help.
    Left, right, whatever…people are thinking too damn little to not at all.
    imo

  33. Trump just lies and lies and lies – that's the secret of his success. This must be a first – a bald faced liar who has risen to the top. And the public just seems to accept it (or has so far).

  34. People as individuals think better than as a group, even more a crowd n yet as an individual, but everyone needs a familiarity with others.The opposition to that tiny little tiny "acceptance" "idea" is what has destroyed the political socio-cultural playground in the US of A. I blame it on drug inducing 😛 mainly the hippies

  35. “People want to feel like they are on the winning team”. That’s wrong when we consider that people have values and are inclined to do certain decisions despite their own negative outcome.

  36. The whole point of the 40 hr work week is to make sure you don't have the opportunity to educate yourself. The last thing corporate America and the government want is people with the time to inform themselves on issues. After 8 hrs at the office and 2 hrs in traffic what do you want to do when you get home? Hint, 99% of people won't answer: Homework. They're going to turn on their favorite hyper-partisan bombastic pundits and fill their heads with anxiety and bile. And that's if they bother imbibing news at all.

  37. Videos like these are apart of the reason people believe the media and intellects these days are conniving and extremely biased especially to impressionable minds

  38. overthinking about trump is getting stupidier everyday . he was against hillary clinton . final point . Bernie sanders where was he ?

  39. Not through chance… individuals are created by the competition of nature. By warring against their circumstances. That is the strength of the argument of politics of inevitability.

  40. The biosphere is irreparably damaged. "Civilization" will fail within two years and the 400,000 tons of nuclear "spent" fuel rods that need constant tending and cooling from grid power will burn and blow the atmosphere off of Earth. The ongoing Sixth Mass Extinction will be the last. Life will never again inhabit Earth. Tell people you love them.

  41. exactly padawan, well done
    im still not gonna show you my play books though
    so stop asking it's getting embarrasing now

    you lot i swear

  42. This is what Dr. JORDAN B PETERSON has been talking about for years. Be a powerful individual and stop being a sheep. That goes for both sides of the political aisle

  43. trump is a failure
    hits like button repeatedly

    be ready for the dumfcks relativising his stupid policies and general fckups

  44. The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind

  45. He’s spot on with the team thought process from trump supporters. It’s easy to do to access a nice feeling… like Christianity.

  46. I think our society is currently going that route. Uniqueness has become a sort of trend in the past 5 years. At least in those 30 years or younger.

  47. There can exist a big difference between the "right" team and the "winning" team. The Americans he described are what's called mercenarial. These are characterized by a lack of fundamental sociol values. These kinds can be on the "right" team and still be "wrong." Access to information can mitigate this error by improving the chances that these kinds of persons can at least do better at aligning themselves with "teams" and campaigns that are compatible with at least THEIR OWN self interests if they have any, and not just trending.

  48. The lack of self awareness on the left is hilarious. If you want people living in irrational fear, becoming entrenched in their beliefs, or becoming radicalised in social media bubbles, or shutting down other’s opinions because they don’t like them, resorting to emotion over intelligence, “our team against theirs” mentality – look no further than the current left in the West today. They are a parody of themselves and do no favours to people who truly care about providing equality of opportunity for all and a better future for the following generations.

  49. No we need something to circle around other than the concept of an atomized individual, in theory, acting totally rationally for his interests. In reality individuals and individual thinking are not things that can be united or be uniting factors. As soon as you group yourself with others to get something done while sacrificing some of the priorities that you have for more important ones that others also want, you've collectivized yourself with them. We have to find the things that allow us individuals and subgroups to exist peacefully by transcending the individual, and which also might require keeping separate cultures which are bound to collide when placed in close proximity to each other

  50. Individual thinking is precisely what got us into our predicament. Everyone thinking they're special and the center of the universe. The atomized individual. We need community and national spirit.

  51. America doesn't need to be reunited. It needs to voluntarily split into those of European descent who want to live together, and others. Individualism doesn't cut it. It needs a group to oppose another group. As whites are on the verge of extinction.. they have to band together for survival or go extinct. It's pretty simple.

  52. Yes and also to stay away from resentment we need education. To cast away the idea of being a victim as a person or as a group we need individualism to realise that is not how the world Actually works, and even if everyone believes that It does It still does not. We will find out to our detriment…

  53. What happens even if People do adopt the concept of Individual thinking to Unite but the Citizens have Governments that are Hell Bent on Dividing their Populations as it serves their Purpose to stay in Power through resources freely available to them as in Finance & Media. In Unity there is Strength that I can relate to.

  54. I'm convinced that President Trump is really good at talking to eligible voters who don't have a college degree and individuals that have an appreciation for "common sense politics". http://www.people-press.org/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/

  55. I might have just heard this wrong, but did he just call Trump a failure? The man is living the American dream economically, and he has become the goddamn president. Have you been the president of the US?

    Rather be on team billionaire than on team lefty. Rather be on team fuck the political elite than on team political elite

  56. It's so sad to see him bash Trump like this for no reason. His argument is good: people need to vote on the people who will make their lifes, and the lifes of others better, not on the expected winner. They have to look critically at information presented.

    Let's hope next US elections will be between 2 rational people who really want the best for the US, and who know how to get there. Both Trump and Clinton were not fit for that job

  57. As you can see from the comments the public has it’s tribal warpaint on. They must adhere to tribal norms. All truths must come from within their tribe. That’s why the America I grew up in is finished. The storm of violence in coming. It’s always ushered in by megalomaniacs. Humans never seem to learn from history.

  58. How is Trump a failure? HE is a long time business man who became president. If that isn't success then what the fuck is?

  59. Yes, in a sense, Trump's a failure…
    People worship him for all the wrong reasons, because the material wealth reasons can also be represented by other super wealthy individuals with humanitarian virtues. i.e many other billionaires are thus – humanitarians. In the case of Trump, he is even less successful because he inherited most of his opportunities and fortune from his dad's NY real estate empire ( as he got out of college). The NY real estate he inherited in the 70's grew to near billions of $$$ just sitting there with no effort on his part. As a matter of fact. most of his other business ventures went bankrupt and that core (inherited) real estate, saved his ass.

    Associating him with "success" is the cancer that is causing the "failure" America currently is under his regime. i.e. disunity, racial and misogynistic divisiveness, lack of ethics, high crime due to extreme inequality, egocentric walls and trade wars which need not be and will cause America strife and alienation in the long run… He is acting more like a totalitarian/ dictator than a decent president. Now some people might think that kind of of mob boss bullying makes America great… but they are just being ignorant or disingenuous. Most of the western world agree that America was much greater before Trump (under Obama). To them, he's just a bad joke.

  60. Thought provoking. The idea of thinking individually or, in one's best interests as a project makes a bit of sense. It can take a bit of strength to pull away from the 'group-think' mentality. It's easier to slide along with 'group think because it can require less energy. As in sports, to improve one has to make an effort through practice and training.
    As far as the 'which side or team is a person on Thinking '; I wonder if the reference to Trump was a little test …..

  61. Most of these observations have value. Education is key. Teaching people how to think critically, making them aware of logical fallacy as well as cognitive bias must take precedence over all other forms of Education… if that's not a priority then democracy is a total fucking failure and so is freedom of speech for that matter.

    Of course all this talk of the individual is where we must question his definition of the word "individual".

    This concept of the self is at the root of all of these problems. the majority are to scientifically illiterate to realize there is no self.

    We are in the state of constant flux. We die every day and we are replaced every day. Neurological structure does not stay the same and is not individualistic. Everything we think is the product of everything that has ever been thought or that neurological structure has been exposed to… Among other factors also, of which I'm not going to list every one at this particular moment…

    The majority of the so-called "human" population are always attempting to "find themselves", which is not possible because we do not know what we are. This borderline futile quest to pretend to know what we are is at the core of identity politics and that is the most divisive factor in this equation.

    Of course this perceived individual "man" is of a generation that doesn't seem to be able to escape the perceptual paradigm of excessive individualism and usually fails to think globally.

    Another factor in all of this is divergence; both evolutionary and informational.

    There is an us and them also. It's just not the us in them that comes to mind when most so-called "people" think in those terms.

    Unfortunately there is far too much to learn and far too many critical thinking skills to obtain for the majority of our phenotype expressions to efficiently acquire the level of reasonability that is needed for democracy to succeed. Surviving the necessary paradigm shifts of which are a necessity is even less obtainable with the current state of mass awareness.

    Again, this perceptual paradigm of excessive individualism is at the root of conservative values; which make change grind to a halt, in most regards.

    In order to have reasonable perspectives and achieve any semblance of accuracy in regards to perception of structural reality OR to escape mere reactionary awareness in order to attain expanded consciousness; it takes the better part of 20 years for even brilliant to genius-level intelligence to attain. Even that is only possible with tremendous support, free time and removal of distractions; which in most cases is not possible… This is why the visionaries are few and far between.

    For the majority of the simple-minded phenotype expressions of our biology, 40 + years will be required for them to acquire the necessary level of consciousness.. in order to understand motives and best interests. By the time they acquire said level of consciousness, damage has already been done and they don't have very much time to spend in that state. Generations that are coming up behind them are in the way of progress even if a large demographic somehow manages to achieve expanded consciousness.

    The answers to fix this are not simple and they're not answers that people want, (as is often the case in regards to science and the cold, hard reality of the matter).

    I'm not going to get into such a complex topic as the restructuring of civilization in text-based communications… Most don't understand what I'm saying even if we have verbal communications, visual cues nor do people have the restraint to stay silent, not jump to conclusions and just listen….

    And of course, a large percentage of the population will argue like it's a sport for them to win at; even if they don't have anything to argue about. A bunch of win junkies. Operant conditioning. Sports driven mentality brainwashing. the psychological association to the concept of individualism, ego, a dopamine release to the concept of winning.

    Best focus on the very young children as to prevent piss poor thought models and dangerous emulations of robotic programming, in regards to the Romanesque emulations that seem to be so regularly perpetuated.

    Foremost, it's just not efficient to break adults of a certain age of those horrid habits and again, even if we did get them to break those habits and teach them all they needed to know, they would finish their education and perhaps some semblance of mastery and then die. Sadly, none of us would benefit….

    Then of course if you're going to teach the younger generations such skills they will have nothing in common with their parents and grandparents. We will divide civilization or our species even further… We won't even speak the same fucking language at that point. Some of us already don't.

    Sigh… Look me up at TheLogicianMagician on Twitch. Every weekend I open source my perceived "individual brain" and I will answer many questions verbally. Know where your towel is when and if you show up. 😉

  62. Cause organization of the rabble is forbidden. You as an individual have to do things because individuals have no power compared to existing systems of power.

    Also economists are just voodoo priests for the god called markets.

  63. How is thinking about the future and thinking about "us and them" mutually exclusive?
    He is advocating ignorance and denial of demographics. Groups DO exist.
    Tim is a terrible thinker.

  64. It's interesting that Tim is rallying against the collectivist concept yet you can easily find him rallying for the collective interests of Jews in Israel, an quasi ethno-state. Of course, he is Jewish himself and only advocates individualism for non Jews. Complete hypocrite and intellectual fraud.

  65. The concept of individual thinking is what made the USA the power house it is. It is interesting to look at the dichotomy that is the American citizen. On one hand we value our individuality while still being very social. Their is nothing wrong with forming in-group identities. The problems arise when we try to force our in-group ideology on others, thus creating the out-group identity.
    I agree that education of the population is a greater good for society as a whole. The problem is that many of today's educators are promoting Marxist/collectivist ideas instead of the individualist concept of entrepreneurship. That doesn't mean that we should abandon all concept of society, rather that education shouldn't focus Utopian dreams.

  66. Okay, that will be a plan C after we make people less intelligent with fluoride. One grant to add fluoride to water this year was for $38,300,000.00. In 2010 it was for 6,000,000.

  67. Democrats praise the rich that vote against their economic interest because they have a higher moral code. The same is true for people that vote republican. They hold a moral code that is different than their economic interest. These people are not " Wanting to be on the winning team's bench" they vote based on morals NOT economic interest.

  68. I was quite happy to listen to you as this is about the individual. Then you bring President trump into the conversation. He himself is an individual and he is doing what he thinks is right. Next time where a tie & do you shirt up all the way as you must do a good impression. As we do this in interviews, court dates & public speaking. If you proves to me that you are a bit floppy & part of a group identity yourself

  69. Individualism is the only way we can move forward as humans. Identitarianism is inherently bigoted. By separating people into any set of groups is racist and or sexist. The left and the right do this. That’s why we need to become centrists and individualists first.

  70. Yeah, you know it's a great lecture of propaganda when he suddenly in the middle of muddy thinking drops bomb with Trump is a failure… sorry sir, you are a failure if you are paid to say that

  71. Not better for me economically eh? I got two raises AND I'm paying fewer taxes… Yeah (*eyeroll), I'm not doing better economically… (sarcasm)

  72. I didn't vote for Trump, but the comment that Trump was "of course, a failure" was odd to me. It seems to be groupthink, or at least poor thinking, to say it as if it's a foregone conclusion with no supporting evidence. Half the country did vote for him… so, no, it's not "of course" — it obviously demands that you support that claim if you are honestly attempting to engage more thsn half the country.
    Trump has failed at many things (selling steaks or being decent to women for example) but that still doesn't verify a weird, over-general statement like "Trump is, of course, a failure". A failure at what? He's quite a succesful huckster, actually. He's a fabulously successful self-promoter. And, "of course", he successfully convinced a significant chunk of America that he would fight for them.

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